tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post1075739879034061743..comments2024-03-15T04:08:16.172-04:00Comments on Only the Cinema: Battleship PotemkinEd Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-45184957878956242932012-03-20T16:41:45.837-04:002012-03-20T16:41:45.837-04:00Mark, I haven't seen later Eisenstein yet, but...Mark, I haven't seen later Eisenstein yet, but I definitely think the homoeroticism in this one is already pretty unambiguous. Such loving depictions of male bodies at work.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-47352675010289471032012-03-16T16:05:17.194-04:002012-03-16T16:05:17.194-04:00Jesus, the all-male camaraderie of the battleship ...Jesus, the all-male camaraderie of the battleship is really veiled homoeroticism? I need to clean my glasses. I thought Eisenstein saved all his gay sensibilities for the great, unambiguous 'Ivan' films.mark s.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-62567752002585752472012-03-13T17:39:55.804-04:002012-03-13T17:39:55.804-04:00Thanks for the comments, guys.
Michael, the film ...Thanks for the comments, guys.<br /><br />Michael, the film is undoubtedly important technically and historically, no matter what one thinks about it beyond that. Personally, I think it retains quite a bit of its emotional and aesthetic impact, surprisingly a lot in fact considering how influential it's been.<br /><br />Sam, I agree totally that Eisenstein achieves a nice balance in the Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-17975962736176843272012-03-13T16:47:02.275-04:002012-03-13T16:47:02.275-04:00Thanks a great comment there David, and the essay ...Thanks a great comment there David, and the essay makes a very persuasive argument for the homoerotic context. I like the point about Eisenstein much preferring a boy rip off his shirt than hoisting a flag! Ha!Sam Julianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-40713838298036221692012-03-13T14:31:53.187-04:002012-03-13T14:31:53.187-04:00Here's a pice about Nestor Almendros' piec...<a href="http://www.theartsdesk.com/film/battleship-potemkin-comes-out-closet" rel="nofollow">Here's a pice about Nestor Almendros' piece</a> with a note by me about <i>Que Viva Mexico</i>DavidEhrensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016905507543736049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-1020014913510873812012-03-13T14:28:27.222-04:002012-03-13T14:28:27.222-04:00It's a love letter alright. I'll try to fi...It's a love letter alright. I'll try to find a link to the piece Nestor Almendros write about it for "Film Comment" in which he cites it as one of the most explicitly homoerotic films ever made.<br /><br />Whether the events it claims to depict actually took place is still a matter of dispute. But the Odessa Steps sequence is so omnipresetn in film history that it spills over DavidEhrensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016905507543736049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-45112298447008110992012-03-13T10:52:18.914-04:002012-03-13T10:52:18.914-04:00"The film's most famous sequence is the m..."The film's most famous sequence is the massacre on the Odessa Steps, an incident that was invented for the film by Eisenstein, drawing on the fact that there were riots in Odessa in support of the rebel sailors, and that tsarist troops did reportedly fire into the crowds. The scene is a dazzling showcase for Eisenstein's theories of montage, methodically cycling between long views Sam Julianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-41328849540272135272012-03-13T09:16:06.781-04:002012-03-13T09:16:06.781-04:00Very good review Ed. It brings light and different...Very good review Ed. It brings light and different lecture on this masterpiece I am far from being fond of. Personnally, the theory of montage and fast editing of Eisenstein's films is more than annoying and even if it revolutionized the media and brought the cinematic narratives to a higher level I find it hard to digest. However, without Eisenstein, Hitchcock wouldn't have been the MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366182655374603950noreply@blogger.com