tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post709567679380488578..comments2024-03-15T04:08:16.172-04:00Comments on Only the Cinema: Les maîtres fousEd Howardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-27138758945697372662011-03-29T22:56:50.702-04:002011-03-29T22:56:50.702-04:00Anon, subtitled copies can be found on at least so...Anon, subtitled copies can be found on at least some private torrent sites, so they're out there. I don't understand anywhere near enough French to get by without the subs.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-2458620406390941682011-03-29T21:44:46.844-04:002011-03-29T21:44:46.844-04:00I've been wanting watch this for awhile now. ...I've been wanting watch this for awhile now. Was your's subtitled? Or do you understand french? I've been looking for a subtitled ANYTHING with no luck except for that clip on youtube.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-73322802991525723422011-03-26T22:56:33.636-04:002011-03-26T22:56:33.636-04:00Hey, JAFB. You're right, I'm pretty select...Hey, JAFB. You're right, I'm pretty selective about what I watch and as a result I tend to write a lot more positive reviews than negative reviews (though there are a few more of the latter coming in the next few weeks). Interesting take on the Rouch film, too. And that's a great fact about Herzog; I didn't know that he was such a big fan, but it makes perfect sense of course. Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-21046535666859305532011-03-26T14:22:46.008-04:002011-03-26T14:22:46.008-04:00AN out and out negative review of a film at the si...AN out and out negative review of a film at the site after a long time, I see. <br /><br />I love Rouch's film though. I thought the voice-over was a jab at itself. Its deadpan interpretations, I thought, were a send up of ethnographic films which try to read other cultures using the terminologies and methodologies of one's own. Like the opening section of STAR SPANGLED TO DEATH, where Just Another Film Buffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17880550053788464732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-25529301595875654942011-03-26T08:46:59.619-04:002011-03-26T08:46:59.619-04:00Thanks, Sam. It's certainly an interesting fil...Thanks, Sam. It's certainly an interesting film and I'll be seeking out more Rouch, even though I had some problems with this one. Good comparison points there, to some other films and directors who deal with colonialism from various different angles.Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-4803272058493889452011-03-25T17:22:33.556-04:002011-03-25T17:22:33.556-04:00"What makes the film so odd and challenging i..."What makes the film so odd and challenging is the juxtaposition between its relaxed narration — which affects the soothing tones and distanced objective pose of many ethnographic documentaries — and the lurid, outrageous imagery of the ritual itself."<br /><br />Most interesting Ed. Oh boy, I'm sorry to say I have not seen this film, and honestly have not heard of it. But I havenSam Julianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-17421178171409813162011-03-25T10:54:04.545-04:002011-03-25T10:54:04.545-04:00Much of what Rouch discovers here turns up in a di...Much of what Rouch discovers here turns up in a different form in Jennie Livingston's <i>Paris is Burning</i> -- her seminal film about gay underground "Ball" culture and the invention of "Voguing."DavidEhrensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016905507543736049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-32894906902833077152011-03-25T10:21:43.702-04:002011-03-25T10:21:43.702-04:00Interesting, David!
Bobby, you're probably ri...Interesting, David!<br /><br />Bobby, you're probably right about the claims of the voiceover, I don't know why but it just struck me that Rouch was making some rather dubious claims about what he was seeing. I know he was a very serious ethnographer and spent a long time in Africa, though, so I should probably give him more of a benefit of the doubt. In any event, it's undoubtedly a Ed Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18014222247676090467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-66093150353157200222011-03-25T10:05:08.444-04:002011-03-25T10:05:08.444-04:00I don't know why we shouldn't take Rouch&#...I don't know why we shouldn't take Rouch's scientific claims seriously. He was a practicing ethnographer. Not some fly-by-night journalist or documentarian.<br /><br />However, you make some valid points about the ethics of representation and the ambivalent tone of the film. I think this is a great work and it contains my favorite cut in Rouch's cinema. <br /><br />The extremeBobby Wisehttp://www.bobbywisecriticism.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3296479421292377391.post-14608914435211788122011-03-25T08:58:37.305-04:002011-03-25T08:58:37.305-04:00Les Maitres Fous was the exceedingly direct inspir...<i>Les Maitres Fous</i> was the exceedingly direct inspiration for Jean Genet's <i>The Blacks</i> On seeing it he realized he'd found an ideal way for saying everythig he wanted to say (at that particular moment) about society, power and racism.DavidEhrensteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016905507543736049noreply@blogger.com